@ScottDKushner: BREAKING: Confirmed through source, #Tulane gets FB commitment No. 3, OL Keeyon Smart from McKinley HS in Baton Rouge (6-5, 300 lbs).
Keeyon Smart commits
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AugWave
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Lol, beat me to it! I deleted my topic of Keeyon. GREAT get, and he's Tanzel Smart's bro.
LET'S GET HIS TEAMMATE, KIRK LOUIS JR.!!!!
LET'S GET HIS TEAMMATE, KIRK LOUIS JR.!!!!
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Had a Miss State offer, CJ is tooling Mullen.AugWave wrote:Lol, beat me to it! I deleted my topic of Keeyon. GREAT get, and he's Tanzel Smart's bro.
LET'S GET HIS TEAMMATE, KIRK LOUIS JR.!!!!
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Right. Definitely opening some eyes.mbawavefan12 wrote:Had a Miss State offer, CJ is tooling Mullen.AugWave wrote:Lol, beat me to it! I deleted my topic of Keeyon. GREAT get, and he's Tanzel Smart's bro.
LET'S GET HIS TEAMMATE, KIRK LOUIS JR.!!!!
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Looks good as he has the size. Even better is that we have his brother to go by. We now he has a good work ethic so hopefully the same is true here.
OUG this is another good example. Right now these are just commits. We already lost Bussey. Also these last two look good but 2 doesn't make a class. As I said in the other thread hopefully CJ and his staff can fill this class out and continue to recruit well into the future but once we are playing the schedules we'll be playing can it hold up? I hope so but only time will tell.
OUG this is another good example. Right now these are just commits. We already lost Bussey. Also these last two look good but 2 doesn't make a class. As I said in the other thread hopefully CJ and his staff can fill this class out and continue to recruit well into the future but once we are playing the schedules we'll be playing can it hold up? I hope so but only time will tell.
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YOU NEED LEVERAGE TO BE PROACTIVE!
Small time facilities for small time programs
6-4-23:Now all of the mistakes Tulane has made finally catches up with them as they descend to CUSAAC.
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Since you are throwing out this strawman, exactly who has made any such suggestion?OUG wrote:WUT ABOUT HIS STARZZZ! UNRATED??!?!?!
WTF CJ!?!?! TYPICAL TULANE
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Was just pointing out, as usual, that there is no substance or accuracy to your comments.OUG wrote:Its a joke. Are your ears burning?jonathanjoseph wrote:Since you are throwing out this strawman, exactly who has made any such suggestion?OUG wrote:WUT ABOUT HIS STARZZZ! UNRATED??!?!?!
WTF CJ!?!?! TYPICAL TULANE
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That's the stupidest response you've ever made, JJ. It was obviously a comment made in jest. Why would a joke need to be accurate or have substance? Once again, you're just out picking a fight.jonathanjoseph wrote:Was just pointing out, as usual, that there is no substance or accuracy to your comments.OUG wrote:Its a joke. Are your ears burning?jonathanjoseph wrote:Since you are throwing out this strawman, exactly who has made any such suggestion?OUG wrote:WUT ABOUT HIS STARZZZ! UNRATED??!?!?!
WTF CJ!?!?! TYPICAL TULANE
"That mantra is the only consistent thing that never needs to ever change for the rest of this program’s existence because that is all that matters & as long as that keeps occurring, everything will handle itself" -- Nick Anderson
Not to mention, the substance is a critique of the faith people put in ratings services. This kid has an SEC offer and hasn't been evaluated yet by the two biggest services. Outside of the 4-5 star kids, the services just aren't that reliable at evaluating the middle part of the bell curve for D-1 Talent. There are too many kids and the differences are too marginal.RobertM320 wrote:That's the stupidest response you've ever made, JJ. It was obviously a comment made in jest. Why would a joke need to be accurate or have substance? Once again, you're just out picking a fight.jonathanjoseph wrote:Was just pointing out, as usual, that there is no substance or accuracy to your comments.OUG wrote:Its a joke. Are your ears burning?jonathanjoseph wrote:Since you are throwing out this strawman, exactly who has made any such suggestion?OUG wrote:WUT ABOUT HIS STARZZZ! UNRATED??!?!?!
WTF CJ!?!?! TYPICAL TULANE
I don't honestly know why JJ got so sensitive about it. Strange dude.
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You answered your own question. LOLOUG wrote:Not to mention, the substance is a critique of the faith people put in ratings services. This kid has an SEC offer and hasn't been evaluated yet by the two biggest services. Outside of the 4-5 star kids, the services just aren't that reliable at evaluating the middle part of the bell curve for D-1 Talent. There are too many kids and the differences are too marginal.RobertM320 wrote:That's the stupidest response you've ever made, JJ. It was obviously a comment made in jest. Why would a joke need to be accurate or have substance? Once again, you're just out picking a fight.jonathanjoseph wrote:Was just pointing out, as usual, that there is no substance or accuracy to your comments.OUG wrote:Its a joke. Are your ears burning?jonathanjoseph wrote:Since you are throwing out this strawman, exactly who has made any such suggestion?OUG wrote:WUT ABOUT HIS STARZZZ! UNRATED??!?!?!
WTF CJ!?!?! TYPICAL TULANE
I don't honestly know why JJ got so sensitive about it. Strange dude.
"That mantra is the only consistent thing that never needs to ever change for the rest of this program’s existence because that is all that matters & as long as that keeps occurring, everything will handle itself" -- Nick Anderson
It was aimed at me and others who feel the POSS will hold the program back. I'll gladly eat crow when we are ranked in the top 25.
Tulane didn't have a stadium issue it had a program and facilities issues. To the new President- we want a new AD , a football facility and an IPF. We want top 25 programs in football and basketball the only two sports that count.
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wavedat wrote:It was aimed at me and others who feel the POSS will hold the program back. I'll gladly eat crow when we are ranked in the top 25.
You know, if Boise State can make a BCS bowl playing on a blue field in the middle of f'n nowhere, we can do the same in the POSS. Its all about doing what's needed to win. Unfortunately, our Athletic Department doesn't seem willing to do that.
"That mantra is the only consistent thing that never needs to ever change for the rest of this program’s existence because that is all that matters & as long as that keeps occurring, everything will handle itself" -- Nick Anderson
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Nope. It was a continuation of his postings calling out "negative" posters, even if the tone was obviously in jest. And if you are looking for someone picking a fight, you got the wrong guy.RobertM320 wrote:That's the stupidest response you've ever made, JJ. It was obviously a comment made in jest. Why would a joke need to be accurate or have substance? Once again, you're just out picking a fight.jonathanjoseph wrote:Was just pointing out, as usual, that there is no substance or accuracy to your comments.OUG wrote:Its a joke. Are your ears burning?jonathanjoseph wrote:Since you are throwing out this strawman, exactly who has made any such suggestion?OUG wrote:WUT ABOUT HIS STARZZZ! UNRATED??!?!?!
WTF CJ!?!?! TYPICAL TULANE
OUG wrote:247 has gotten around to rating Keeyon. Three stars.
I have learned that many posters here don't give a rats face about 247's ratings. Some seem to believe that rivals is the bible of recruiting stars. To be honest, it seems like 247 has been more accurate.
My main criticism has always been less about a specific service and more that the sheer magnitude of the undertaking makes it very difficult to truly be accurate in the fat part of the bell curve -- where the money is made.Wave QB wrote:OUG wrote:247 has gotten around to rating Keeyon. Three stars.
I have learned that many posters here don't give a rats face about 247's ratings. Some seem to believe that rivals is the bible of recruiting stars. To be honest, it seems like 247 has been more accurate.
So, I think most services are going to do a good job sorting out the top 10% of prospects nationally, your 4/5 star kids. These are the kids that have been on their radar since forever, have been going to the camps, play at the powerhouse HS programs, have started since Freshman year, etc. Honestly, I don't need these service's "ratings" to tell me these kids are studs. The ratings of these kids are probably very accurate, but there's no value-add there.
I also think that the rating services generally know pretty early (say, by summer) who is not likely to get many sniffs in FBS. In Louisiana, this is probably 150-200 ranked guys in the State pecking order (call this the bottom 10%). Again, there's not a ton of value they are providing here. I'm not impressed by any of the services telling me that a 5'8 145 lb kid that runs a 4.9 isn't going to be an FBS level corner.
Where the value should be is in distinguishing between two and three-star players. And here, there are just so many players in this 80%/middle of the bell curve that their job is nearly impossible. Evaluating, projecting, and rating these kids who have a talent level that is clustered pretty closely together seems like an impossible task, and it is. The evidence of this is that there are very few consensus three-star players across the services. If there was truly a sharp difference between 2 and 3 star talent, wouldn't we be seeing consistency across the services in identifying it? The reality is that the gap between a 2 star and a 3 star is not as significant as we are prone to think. The prized recruit we fought multiple schools over last year at the end of the process (Daren Williams) was a two-star at 247 and a really low 2 star at Rivals, but a three star at Scout. In this fat part of the bell curve, the entire exercise of differentiating talent/ratings feels very arbitrary to me.
I do like to cite where we get "3-star" guys because it is a data point, and even it its not the best data point, its the one the public likes to use.
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Boise State actually made a name for themselves and an identity playing on that blue turf! I hope that the checkerboard sky blue and green end zones become something that people identify with Yulman. If they do it right, it will look awesome. Let's hope RD has nothing to do with the design. If CJ can get the offense rolling, it would be great to see ESPN highlights with our boys finding their way into those checkerboard endzones often.RobertM320 wrote:wavedat wrote:It was aimed at me and others who feel the POSS will hold the program back. I'll gladly eat crow when we are ranked in the top 25.
You know, if Boise State can make a BCS bowl playing on a blue field in the middle of f'n nowhere, we can do the same in the POSS. Its all about doing what's needed to win. Unfortunately, our Athletic Department doesn't seem willing to do that.
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We are off topic, but the end zones are green and white checker boarded, no?DfromCT wrote:Boise State actually made a name for themselves and an identity playing on that blue turf! I hope that the checkerboard sky blue and green end zones become something that people identify with Yulman. If they do it right, it will look awesome. Let's hope RD has nothing to do with the design. If CJ can get the offense rolling, it would be great to see ESPN highlights with our boys finding their way into those checkerboard endzones often.RobertM320 wrote:wavedat wrote:It was aimed at me and others who feel the POSS will hold the program back. I'll gladly eat crow when we are ranked in the top 25.
You know, if Boise State can make a BCS bowl playing on a blue field in the middle of f'n nowhere, we can do the same in the POSS. Its all about doing what's needed to win. Unfortunately, our Athletic Department doesn't seem willing to do that.
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